Refutation on this who mix with the people of Bid’ah for the sake of “Da’wah”

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

الرد الجلى على من يخالط أهل الأهواء و البدع

It is known that from the Usuul of the Sunnah that one must not listen to the people of innovation or attend their conferences, lectures, meetings etc. However some of us, and may Allah guide us all, have the idea that if it is that we do not go and sit with the people of innovation and desires and their conferences, lectures etc. that we would not be able to expose the Da’wah As Salafeeyah to the people. The answer to this is as follows:

(1) There are clear evidences from the book of Allah and the Sunnah of the Messenger صلى الله عليه و سلم which show that it is Haraam to sit down and listen to the people of innovation.

From this is the statement of Allah:

It is He Who has sent down to you (Muhammad) the Book (this Qur’ân). In it are Verses that are entirely clear, they are the foundations of the Book [and those are the Verses of Al-Ahkâm (commandments, etc.), Al-Farâ’id (obligatory duties) and Al-Hudud (legal laws for the punishment of thieves, adulterers, etc.)]; and others not entirely clear. So as for those in whose hearts there is a deviation (from the truth) they follow that which is not entirely clear thereof, seeking Al-Fitnah (polytheism and trials, etc.), and seeking for its hidden meanings, but none knows its hidden meanings save Allâh. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: “We believe in it; the whole of it (clear and unclear Verses) are from our Lord.” And none receive admonition except men of understanding. (Tafsir At-Tabarî). {Surah 3:7}

Aisha رضي الله عنها said that the Prophet صلى الله عليه و سلم said about this verse: “If you see those who follow that which is unclear then they are those who Allah named therefore stay away from them.”

Also the statement of Allah:

And it has already been revealed to you in the Book (this Qur’ân) that when you hear the Verses of Allâh being denied and mocked at, then sit not with them, until they engage in a talk other than that; (but if you stayed with them) certainly in that case you would be like them. Surely, Allâh will collect the hypocrites and disbelievers all together in Hell {4:140}

Imam As Sa’di said in his Tafseer: “(but if you stayed with them) certainly in that case you would be like them.” Meaning if you sit with them in their aforementioned condition (you would be like them) because you have become satisfied with their disbelief and their mockery and the one who is pleased with sin is like the one who does it.”

Also the statement of Allah:

And leave alone those who take their religion as play and amusement, and are deceived by the life of this world. But remind (them) with it (the Qur’ân) lest a person be given up to destruction for that which he has earned, when he will find for himself no protector or intercessor besides Allâh, and even if he offers every ransom, it will not be accepted from him. Such are they who are given up to destruction because of that which they have earned. For them will be a drink of boiling water and a painful torment because they used to disbelieve. {6:70}

(2) It is Ijmaa’ (consensus) that sitting with the people of innovation is Haraam.

Imam As Sabuuni said in his book ‘Aqeedah As Salaf Ashaabul Hadeeth: “And they (Ahlus Sunnah) dislike the people of innovation, those who have innovated in this religion which is not from it. And they do not love them and they do not befriend them and they do not listen to their speech and they do not sit with them and they do not argue with them about the religion…”

Imam Al Barbahari said: “If you see a man who makes much effort in worship and he is a person of desires, then do not sit with him, and do not listen to him, and do not walk with him on the street.”

So how is it that one expects the Da’wah Us Salafeeyah to spread through a deed which Allah detests? In this deen the ends do not justify the means but rather the means take the ruling of the ends. Hence if the means of attaining success in this da’wah is Haraam how can there be a good end.

(3) If we look at the places where the da’wah Us Salafeeyah spread in this time, especially Yemen, we see that Ahlus Sunnah held on to the fundamentals of this methodology of staying away from the people of innovation and desires. And when they did so Allah gave them success.

و قد سئل الشيخ مقبل ـ رحمه الله ـ فـي هذا المجلس ، كــان عندي : كيف انتشرت الدعوة السلفية عندكم في اليمن، ما السبب؟

Shaikh Muqbil (may Allah have mercy upon him) was asked in this place of sitting which I had: How did the Da’wah As Salafeeyah spread in Yemen? What is the reason?

قال : السبب التميز ، لأنا تميزنا عن أهل البدع فنشر الله السنة.

He said: The reason is by distinguishing (ourselves), we distinguished ourselves from the people of Bid’ah and therefore Allah spread the Sunnah.

و ذكر مثلاً: أن واحدا من أهل البدع جـاء إلى مسجد يتكلم فيه ؛ فخرج كل من فيه ـ يعني هُجرانا له و إهانة له ـ .

And he gave an example: that a person from the people of innovation came in a Masjid in order to speak there, then everyone in that Masjid left it- meaning they made Hajr (seperation) from him and humiliated him.

يعني تشبعوا بالسنة ، و عرفوا قدرها و عرفوا شـناعة البدع و ما تنطوي عليه من الشرور.

Meaning they were satisfied with the Sunnah, and they knew the great station of it and knew the evil of innovation and the evil which comes from it.

فـكان ـ يا إخوة ـ تميز أهل السنة عن الأحزاب و أهل البدع كان سببا عظيما لانتـشار السنة ، و الامتزاج و الاختلاط يكون بالعكس سببا لتغلب البدع و أهلها على السنة و أهلها؛ فتنتشر البدع.

It was- my brothers- distinguishing Ahlus Sunnah from the partisans and Ahlul Bid’ah that was a great reason for the spread of the Sunnah. And blending and mixing with them will have the opposite effect and it is a reason for the conquering of Ahlul Bid’ah and its people over the Sunnah and its people, therefore innovations spread.

أسأل الله أن يثبتنا و إيـاكم على السنة و يجعلنا عاملين بها و الموالين فيها المعادون من أجلها. نعم “.

I ask Allah to keep ourselves and you firm upon the Sunnah and to make us ack upon it and to love and hate for the sake of it, Yes.

المصدر : شريط الأجوبة السديدة على أسئلة المناهج الجديدة وجه ـ أ ـ (منقول

Origin: The tape: The firm answers on the questions about new methodologies side A.

Lost are those who are impatient in giving this da’wah and compromise principles thinking that it would bring good. However, good only comes with patience and standing firm upon the book of Allah and the Sunnah not by compromising and watering down the fundamentals.

There are also Fatawa and statements from the major scholars. This is what Shaikh Rabee’ Ibn Hadi Al Madkhali had to say.

سؤال : هل من نصيحة يا شيخ إلى من يذهب إلى مجالس أهل الأهواء وحضور محاضراتهم والسلام عليهم لكي يتأكد مما يقولون ويجادلهم …الصغار ؟

َQuestion: Is there any advice oh Shaikh for the one who goes to the sittings of the people of desires and attends their lectures and gives them Salaams in order to make sure of what they are saying and debate with them?

الجواب : هذا غالبا يذهب يصبح حزبي إما للتبليغ أو طائفة صوفية أو طائفة رافضية أو جهمية ,لابد هذا الصنف يعاقبهم الله عز وجل لأنهم خالفوا هدي محمد عليه الصلاة والسلام وتوجيهاته وخالفوا هدي السلف وغامروا بدينهم فهؤلاء غالبا ما يضيعون ويلتحقون بأحزاب الشر ,ابن عقيل جبل من الجبال في الذكاء والعمق والعلم نصحوه أن لا يذهب مع المعتزلة ذهب إليهم فصار معتزليا ,أبو ذرّ من تلاميذ الدارقطني إمام في السنة ؛سمع كلمة أخذته راح فصار أشعريا ,عبد الرزاق جالس جعفر ابن سليمان الضبعي جالسه وعنده تشيّع فانتقل ؛ذهب إلى التشيع والتفت إليه فأصبح المسكين من الشيعة ,لكن تشيعه ليس غليظا ,لا نظلمه لكن وقع وتأثر.

The answer: At most times such a person becomes a Hizbee (partisan), either a Tableegh, or from the sects of the Sufis, or the sects of the Rafidees or the sects of the Jahmeeyah. For such people it is a must that Allah takes them to task because they have conflicted the guidance of Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم and what he directed toward and they have conflicted the guidance of the Salaf and has fought their religion. Those people usually are not left alone and become members of evil groups. Ibn ‘Aqeel who was a mountains from the mountains of intelligence and in depth thought and knowledge was advised not to go with the Mu’tazilah but he went to them and became a Mu’tazilee. Abu Tharr who was from the students of Daraqutni and Imam of the Sunnah heard a speech that took him away and became an Ashari. Abdur Razzaq sat with Ja’far Ibn Sulaiman Ad Dib’ee and he had Shi’ism with him then he changed. He went to Shi’ism and looked at it then the poor fellow ended up Shi’ah. But his Shi’ism wasn’t extreme, we do not oppress him but there were the remnants of it.

فالذي يجالس أهل الباطل لا بدّ أن يتأثر رغم أنفه ,مهما ادعى لنفسه لابدّ أن يتأثر لأنّ الرسول الصادق المصدوق عليه الصلاة والسلام حذّر وقال : (إنما مثل الجليس الصالح وجليس السوء كحامل المسك ونافخ الكير ,فحامل المسك إما أن يحذيك وإما أن تبتاع منه وإما أن تجد منه ريحا طيبة ,ونافخ الكير إما أن يحرق ثيابك وإما أن تجد منه ريحا خبيثة) يعني الجليس الصالح ما شاء الله له ثلاث حالات كلها خير :فإما أن يحذيك ويقدم لك هدية تفضل ؛طيّبك ؛يقدم لك علبة ؛يعطيك وإما أن تبتاع منه أي تشتري منه ؛استفدت منه وهذا خير لم تشتري خمرا ولا شيئا محرما بل اشتريت شيئا طيبا يحبه الله عز وجل مطلوب منك في الصلاة ,مطلوب منك عند دخول المساجد فهذا استفدت منه ,وإما تجد منه ريحا طيبة وهذا خير

Hence the one who sits with the people of falsehood must be affected by it even if he would like to refuse. However he sees himself he must be affected because the Messenger who is the truthful and one who has been deemed truthful (by Allah) صلى الله عليه و سلم said: “Verily the example of a good companions and an evil companions is like the one who carries perfume and the blacksmith, for the one who carried perfume it is either he puts it on you or you buy it from him or you find from him a good scent, and the blacksmith is one who either burns your clothing or you find from him an evil smell.” Meaning that the good companions by the will of Allah has three conditions all of them being good. It is either he gives you something and gives you a gift and tells you to go ahead, this is your perfume, he presents to you ‘Ulbah (a type of perfume) and gives you. Or you buy it from him, you benefited from him and this good. You didn’t buy alcohol or anything Haraam but you bought something good that Allah loves and desires from you in prayer. It is desired from you also when one enters the Masjid, you benefited from him, or that you find from him a good scent and this is good.

وجليس السوء كنافخ الكير إما أن يحرق ثيابك وإما أن تجد منه ريحا منتنة يمكن يصيبك بسرطان أو مرض أو أي شيء والعياذ بالله

And the evil companion is like a blacksmith. It is either he burns your clothing or that you find from him an unbearable scent that can result in you getting worms or being sick or anything else other than that and Allah’s refuge is sought.

فجليس السوء لابدّ أن ينالك منه سوء وشر , ( والمرء على دين خليله فلينظر أحدكم من يخالل ) (الأخلاء يومئذ بعضهم لبعض عدو إلا المتقين ) أهل الأهواء والبدع ليسوا من هؤلاء ,عندك الآيات ولأحاديث تحذّر وأنت تقول : لا أمشي ,من أعطاك العصمة ؛إذا كان الرسول عليه الصلاة والسلام يحذّر الصحابة والسلف كانوا أئمة مثل الجبال يسدون آذانهم ولا يريدون أن يسمعوا لأهل البدع .

For the evil companion must have an evil effect on you, “And a man is upon the religion of his friends so let him look at those whom he befriends.” “Companions on that day would be enemies to each other except for the believers.” The people of innovation and desires are not of them (the believers), you have verses and Ahadeeth that warn against this, and you say: No, I am still going, who gave you protection? If it is that that the Messenger صلى الله عليه و سلم warned the companions and the Salaf we leaders like mountains and they used to cover their ears not desiring to hear the people of innovation.

أما أنك تذهب وتزوره وتحضر المحاضرات يصيبك من شرره ومن دخانه ومن نفثه

As for you, you go and you visit him and you are present for lectures then his evil and smoke and whispers will fall upon you.

نحن جربنا كثيرا ,جربنا الكثير ؛أكثر من ثلاثين سنة نحن مجربين ,هؤلاء المغرورون ضاعوا وتاهوا ,نهايتهم محتومة ؛يضيعون نسأل الله العافية ؛مهما بلغ من الذكاء فإنّ الله يعاقبه ,نقول له : ذكاءك لا ينفعك! لا بد أن تبذل الأسباب في حماية هذا الدين الذي أعطاك الله وتحافظ عليه ,هذه نعمة لا تلعب فيها .

We have experienced much, we have experienced much, more than thirty years we have experiences. Those who have fooled themselves became wasted and went astray. Their end is inescapable, they become wastes we ask Allah for his mercy. Whatever level of intelligence he has reached verily Allah takes him to task, we say to him: Your intelligence is of no benefit! It is a must that you take the means to safeguard the religion that Allah has given you, and to protect it, this is a blessing that you don’t play with.

الآن من ترون من الحزبيين – في هذه البلاد – كلهم أصلهم سلفيين في هذه البلاد ؛كلهم ضاعوا بسبب المخالطة والمعاشرة والقراءة والسماع لأهل الأهواء ,كل من ترونه الآن ويقال عنهم فلان حزبي وفلان حزبي …كلهم ما ضاعوا إلا بهذه الوسيلة ,يأخذون بهذه النظرية : ( آخذ الحق وأترك الباطل ) فيأخذ الباطل ويترك الحق ويصبح عدوا للحق حربا على أهله !

At this time those who you see from the partisans- in this country- their basis was all Salafi. Every last one of them became wastes because of their mixing, and living with, and reading (the books) and listening to the people of desires. Everyone you see now and it is said about him so and so is Hizbee so and so is Hizbee… everyone of them did not become wastes except by this means, they take it through this idea ( I will take the truth and leave the falsehood) and he take the falsehood and leaves the truth and becomes an enemy to the truth who is in war with those upon the truth.

وقَولُه : ( وقال الفضيل بن عياض : لا تجلس مع صاحب بدعة ، فإنَّي أخاف عليك أن تنـزل عليك اللعنة ) أقول هذا من الزجر عن مجالسة أهل البدع ، فإنَّه لا يؤمن أن تنـزل عليهم اللعنة بسبب بدعهم ، فيكون من حضر معهم من أهل السنة له نصيبٌ من تلك اللعنة كما أنَّ من حضر مجالس الخير ، ومجالس السنة ، ومجالس الحق ، من حضر هذه المجالس فإنَّ له نصيبٌ من خيرها

Shaikh Yahya An Najmi said about the explanation of Fudail Ibn Iyyad’s statement: “Do not sit with a person of innovation, for verily I fear that curses are sent upon you.” I say that this a warning from sitting with the people of innovation, for verily he is not safe from the curse of Allah being sent upon him because of their innovation, hence the one who is present with them from Ahlus Sunnah has a share in this curse as the one who is present in the sittings of good and the sittings of the Sunnah, and the sittings of truth, and whomsoever sits in these sittings he has a share in its good.

(From Irshaad Us Saari the explanation of Sharh Us Sunnah Al Barbahari p.g 300)

و الله أعلم و صلى الله على نبينا محمد


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