Erasing the false concept. I can’t declare so and so an innovator unless the Ulama do so.

سؤال: هل لطالب العلم أن يتكلم : هذا مبتدع وهذا ضالّ أم يترك هذا للعلماء ؟ وهل إذا سكت عن فلان أو غيره وقال : أنا أطلب العلم حتى أتعلم وبعد ذلك أتكلم ,أجرح وأعدّل عندما أكون عالماً ؟

Question: Is it for the student of knowledge to say: This one is an innovator (Mubtadi’) and that one is astray or does he leave this to the Ulama? And if he keeps quiet about individuals and says: I am a student of knowledge until I learn and after that I will speak, disparage and appraise when I am an ‘Alim?

الجواب : الاعتدال والوسط في كلّ شيء ؛إذا دعت الحاجة للتحذير من رافضي ,من صوفي قبوري ,من حزبي هالك ,من الأشياء هذه ورأى أنّ من النصيحة للمسلمين أن يبين لهم حال هذا الإنسان فيبينه حسب ما يعرفه ,فإنّ بعض الأشياء واضحة ؛الضلال فيها واضح ,فيعرفها طالب العلم ويعرفها العالم فإذا استنصح له فلينصحه.

Being just and taking the middle road is in everything; if there is a need to warn against a Rafidee, a Sufi who worships graves or a destroyed Hizbee (partisan), from the likes of this, this is in my opinion from advice to the Muslims is to clarify the situation of this person therefore clarifying it according to what he knows. For verily some things are clear; the deviance in it is clear, that which the student of knowledge knows and that which the Alim knows that if one asks advice then he is advised.

وإذا رأى إنسانا مخدوعا فليبين له ,وهذا ليس من الغيبة المذمومة بل من الأمور المشروعة ,فإذا خاف عليه من رافضي يضلّه أو صوفي قبوري أوحزبي أو ما شاكل ذلك من أهل الأهواء فإنه عليه أن ينصح له بالحكمة ويقول له : هذا عنده كذا وكذا بارك الله فيكم .

And if he sees someone who is deceived then he should clarify the situation to him, and this is not from backbiting that is dispraised but rather it is from the things that is lawful, that if he fears for him a Rafidee that will misguide him or a Sufi who worships graves or a Hizbee and those who resemble them from the people of desires then verily it is upon him to advise him with wisdom and say to him: this person has with him so and so may Allah bless you’ll.

هناك أمور خفية لا يتكلم فيها إلا أهل العلم بالأدلّة ,فالعالم نفسه لا يتكلم إلا بالحقّ وبالبرهان وبالعدل ولا يقول على الله بغير علم ,وطالب العلم كذلك ؛أمور لا يعرفها لا يتكلم فيها ,أما أمور يعرفها وهي واضحة جلية وفيها مصلحة للمسلمين فيتكلم فيها بالحجة والبرهان حسب طاقته ومعرفته .

There are some things that are hidden (to the student of knowledge) and no one speaks of it except that he is from the people of knowledge and he does so with evidences. The Alim himself does not speak except with the truth and evidences and with justice and he doesn’t say things about Allah (or his religion) without knowledge, and the student of knowledge also. Matters that he doesn’t know he doesn’t speak about it. As for matters that are known and are clear and there is a benefit for the Muslims then he speaks about it with evidences according to his ability and knowledge.

وأما تكميم الأفواه ,لا تقول فلان ضال ولا شيء وإنما سكوت فقط ! فهذا ما يريده أهل الضلال ! يريدون أن لا تتكلم في أهل البدع أبدا ! أسكت فقط والناس كلهم مسلمون والروافض إخواننا والقبوريون إخواننا وما شاكل ذلك ؛هذه الأشياء غلط ويتكلم طالب العلم والعالم بالحجة والبرهان والحكمة والموعظة الحسنة وليس بالسفه والطيش ,بعضهم يتسفه ويطيش ويضر أكثر مما ينفع فهذا السفه والطيش يُترك بارك الله فيكم .

As for shutting one’s mouth, with you not saying that so and so is astray or anything and verily there is only silence! Then this is what the people of misguidance want! They want that you never speak about the people of innovation ever! I keep quiet only and everyone is a Muslim for the Rawafid are our brothers and the grave worshippers are our brothers and what resembles this; these are from the things that are incorrect. And the student of knowledge speaks with evidences and clarity and wisdom, and beautiful speech and not with stupidity or with hastiness, some of them act foolish and are hasty and bring more harm than good and that stupidity and hastiness should be left off. May Allah bless you all.

Notes: From the most odd of speech I have heard is that even if a person denies Allah’s descriptions and curses the likes of Imam Al Bukhari that one cannot declare him a person of innovation unless an ‘Alim does so! But as the Shaikh has showed this is a false principle. In addition to this it is a known principle from Abu Hasan Al Ma’ribi and those who follow him. And Allah’s help is sought.


3 thoughts on “Erasing the false concept. I can’t declare so and so an innovator unless the Ulama do so.

  1. as-Salamu alaike wa rahmatollahi wa barakatuhu ya Musa, may Allaah Ta’alaa reward you with the best reward for this tranlsation and all the other translations you have made aiding the pure understandig of the manhajus-Salafee!!!

    Wallaahi i love for the sake of Allaah ‘Azza wa Jall. Please go on in this way!

  2. As Salaamu ‘alykum wa rahmatullaah wa barkaatuhu

    Barak Allaahu feekkum …Akheee indeed these matters of manhaj and Aqedaah according to the inderstanding of salafu saalih should be translated..
    Jaza Kallah khairaan…

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